Comments on: Liberal v. Conservative http://www.lolife.com/2007/04/liberal-v-conservative/ blunt observations Fri, 07 Oct 2011 01:20:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: bsherwood http://www.lolife.com/2007/04/liberal-v-conservative/comment-page-1/#comment-612 bsherwood Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:04:48 +0000 http://www.lolife.com/newblog/2007/04/11/liberal-v-conservative/#comment-612 I completely understand micadelics last point. I moved from Right to left via education and reacting to zealots on the right. That is why I feel that "the right left me as much as I left them"... The "imprinting" you mentioned in the earlier post is also very interesting...do we evolve or intensify or modify or stagnate?... I came to a point in my life where the rightwing agenda/platform was no longer one that I could; comprehend at some levels, certainly not live with or live by and could not tolerate as a mindset. The left has the same issues with me, but to a much lesser degree. I was approached to "run" in my district by the dems. Due to the socio-economic strata of my particular district that attempt has, and would prove quite futile. I completely understand micadelics last point.
I moved from Right to left via education and reacting to zealots on the right. That is why I feel that “the right left me as much as I left them”…
The “imprinting” you mentioned in the earlier post is also very interesting…do we evolve or intensify or modify or stagnate?…

I came to a point in my life where the rightwing agenda/platform was no longer one that I could; comprehend at some levels, certainly not live with or live by and could not tolerate as a mindset.

The left has the same issues with me, but to a much lesser degree. I was approached to “run” in my district by the dems. Due to the socio-economic strata of my particular district that attempt has, and would prove quite futile.

]]> By: micadelic http://www.lolife.com/2007/04/liberal-v-conservative/comment-page-1/#comment-611 micadelic Thu, 12 Apr 2007 04:24:20 +0000 http://www.lolife.com/newblog/2007/04/11/liberal-v-conservative/#comment-611 <p>Michael...<br /> Just want to make this observation to maybe help clarify what I'm trying to say... When you state "I want to push the Average American's philosophy to the left" that's fine and I understand that. Your left leaning friends give you a big "right on." But making that statement automatically turns off the very people you say you want to persuade. It's gutteral, they react by thinking "I don't want to be pushed to the left" or "I'll never identify with the left." I'm not saying that you shouldn't try to convince people of your point of view. You make good points, your a smart and well reasoned guy, I'm actually trying to help you to better plead your case. Can you understand the point I'm trying to make?</p> Michael…
Just want to make this observation to maybe help clarify what I’m trying to say… When you state “I want to push the Average American’s philosophy to the left” that’s fine and I understand that. Your left leaning friends give you a big “right on.” But making that statement automatically turns off the very people you say you want to persuade. It’s gutteral, they react by thinking “I don’t want to be pushed to the left” or “I’ll never identify with the left.” I’m not saying that you shouldn’t try to convince people of your point of view. You make good points, your a smart and well reasoned guy, I’m actually trying to help you to better plead your case. Can you understand the point I’m trying to make?

]]> By: micadelic http://www.lolife.com/2007/04/liberal-v-conservative/comment-page-1/#comment-610 micadelic Thu, 12 Apr 2007 00:54:15 +0000 http://www.lolife.com/newblog/2007/04/11/liberal-v-conservative/#comment-610 <p>I can't find one thing to disagree with you here and in a way you are saying exactly what I have been trying to say over and over.</p> <p>Somewhat like baby ducks, I believe most of us "imprint" on one side of the debate or another from a very young age. We've talked about this, I believe your parents are academics and very liberal, correct? I was brought up in a very religious, military family, a fact I am very proud of. The left and the right have become so polarized that I find it very, very difficult to identify with the so-called left because of the downright mean-ness and condescension I perceive to be directed at "my side." I believe the left has vilified many on the right (and rightly so) in much the same way. This is exactly why in my little <a href="www.tnpotus.com" rel="nofollow">presidential campaign</a>, I don't even mention the words left, right, liberal, conservative, democrat or republican (except in one place where I denounce labels).</p> <p>I don't do this because I deny these differences exist, I do it because I think that as soon as I overtly identify with one side or the other, I lose half my audience, whether they agree with my actual views or not.</p> <p>Both you and bsherwood have come to my blog and you've accused me of being alternatively a liberal, a democrat, and "not a republican." I think if we focus less on so-called affiliations and more on actual issues, without the baggage of these labels, we more quickly and easily identify our agreements instead of highlighting our differences.</p> <p>Peace</p> I can’t find one thing to disagree with you here and in a way you are saying exactly what I have been trying to say over and over.

Somewhat like baby ducks, I believe most of us “imprint” on one side of the debate or another from a very young age. We’ve talked about this, I believe your parents are academics and very liberal, correct? I was brought up in a very religious, military family, a fact I am very proud of. The left and the right have become so polarized that I find it very, very difficult to identify with the so-called left because of the downright mean-ness and condescension I perceive to be directed at “my side.” I believe the left has vilified many on the right (and rightly so) in much the same way. This is exactly why in my little presidential campaign, I don’t even mention the words left, right, liberal, conservative, democrat or republican (except in one place where I denounce labels).

I don’t do this because I deny these differences exist, I do it because I think that as soon as I overtly identify with one side or the other, I lose half my audience, whether they agree with my actual views or not.

Both you and bsherwood have come to my blog and you’ve accused me of being alternatively a liberal, a democrat, and “not a republican.” I think if we focus less on so-called affiliations and more on actual issues, without the baggage of these labels, we more quickly and easily identify our agreements instead of highlighting our differences.

Peace

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