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	<title>Comments on: Dear Republicans, I&#8217;m sorry your party is anti-science</title>
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		<title>By: lolife</title>
		<link>http://www.lolife.com/2008/10/dear-republicans-im-sorry-your-party-is-anti-science/comment-page-1/#comment-1314</link>
		<dc:creator>lolife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, rjowen, and welcome.

Yes, of course you are correct to a degree. My point, which I think is valid, is that the Republican party sort of officially coddles anti-science people because they want the votes and they know that scientists tend to be liberals. I think there is a purposeful anti-science agenda in the Republican party. That is a different thing than some Democrats being anti-science and some not.

So I do agree with you that anti-science bullshit, regardless of party, should be shunned. PZ and Phil both give shit to the anti-vaxxers, for example, like Robert Kennedy. But the Right &lt;i&gt;wants&lt;/i&gt; to be on the wrong side of science for political reasons.

And PS the Democrats are a deeply flawed party. I&#039;m not a cheerleader for the Democrats, per se. I am a cheerleader for liberals!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, rjowen, and welcome.</p>
<p>Yes, of course you are correct to a degree. My point, which I think is valid, is that the Republican party sort of officially coddles anti-science people because they want the votes and they know that scientists tend to be liberals. I think there is a purposeful anti-science agenda in the Republican party. That is a different thing than some Democrats being anti-science and some not.</p>
<p>So I do agree with you that anti-science bullshit, regardless of party, should be shunned. PZ and Phil both give shit to the anti-vaxxers, for example, like Robert Kennedy. But the Right <i>wants</i> to be on the wrong side of science for political reasons.</p>
<p>And PS the Democrats are a deeply flawed party. I&#8217;m not a cheerleader for the Democrats, per se. I am a cheerleader for liberals!</p>
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		<title>By: rjowen</title>
		<link>http://www.lolife.com/2008/10/dear-republicans-im-sorry-your-party-is-anti-science/comment-page-1/#comment-1312</link>
		<dc:creator>rjowen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on man - there&#039;s TONS of bad science going on in the left too.  It&#039;s not a republicans vs. democrats thing.  

Think about the green movement as the left&#039;s equivalent of Right-wing evangelicals.  While there are lots of sensible Green people, there are also lots of insanely backward and dumb things being done in the name of protecting &quot;the environment&quot; that ignore science, don&#039;t contribute to the good of the environment, and sometimes even harm it.

And that&#039;s just one example - I&#039;m sure we could find many others.  

Republicans aren&#039;t the problem.  Democrats aren&#039;t the problem.  

The problem is ignorant people either abusing science to make a point or flat out ignoring it.  The problem is people who care more about winning and being &quot;right&quot; than the truth.  The problem is people so caught up in sides and positions, categories and teams, that they&#039;re not thinking about the facts, the data, and the choices themselves.  And when you blame &quot;republicans&quot; rather than calling out the ignorant segments of that party, and when you act like that&#039;s the only segment in society who&#039;s wrong, then you&#039;re part of that problem.

Just help me out here.  Let&#039;s talk about ignorant people and the problems the cause and not be so narrow as to assume the entirety of their wrongness is contained in their political perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on man &#8211; there&#8217;s TONS of bad science going on in the left too.  It&#8217;s not a republicans vs. democrats thing.  </p>
<p>Think about the green movement as the left&#8217;s equivalent of Right-wing evangelicals.  While there are lots of sensible Green people, there are also lots of insanely backward and dumb things being done in the name of protecting &#8220;the environment&#8221; that ignore science, don&#8217;t contribute to the good of the environment, and sometimes even harm it.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s just one example &#8211; I&#8217;m sure we could find many others.  </p>
<p>Republicans aren&#8217;t the problem.  Democrats aren&#8217;t the problem.  </p>
<p>The problem is ignorant people either abusing science to make a point or flat out ignoring it.  The problem is people who care more about winning and being &#8220;right&#8221; than the truth.  The problem is people so caught up in sides and positions, categories and teams, that they&#8217;re not thinking about the facts, the data, and the choices themselves.  And when you blame &#8220;republicans&#8221; rather than calling out the ignorant segments of that party, and when you act like that&#8217;s the only segment in society who&#8217;s wrong, then you&#8217;re part of that problem.</p>
<p>Just help me out here.  Let&#8217;s talk about ignorant people and the problems the cause and not be so narrow as to assume the entirety of their wrongness is contained in their political perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: fishdweeb</title>
		<link>http://www.lolife.com/2008/10/dear-republicans-im-sorry-your-party-is-anti-science/comment-page-1/#comment-1289</link>
		<dc:creator>fishdweeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 15:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look what happened to the scientific opinion on global climate change.  The Republican admin stomped all over it and there is still significant ignorance on this issue.

Stem cell research? stomped politically.

the world is indeed flat in the minds of the far right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look what happened to the scientific opinion on global climate change.  The Republican admin stomped all over it and there is still significant ignorance on this issue.</p>
<p>Stem cell research? stomped politically.</p>
<p>the world is indeed flat in the minds of the far right.</p>
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