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		<title>By: The Viewville Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Renaissance and Space Photography</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Viewville Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Renaissance and Space Photography</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] latex balloon laden with a digital camera and &#8220;high-tech sensors&#8221; (I assume a GPS or iPhone or something) and sent it up about 20 miles above the earth. &#8220;We took readings as the balloon [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] latex balloon laden with a digital camera and &#8220;high-tech sensors&#8221; (I assume a GPS or iPhone or something) and sent it up about 20 miles above the earth. &#8220;We took readings as the balloon [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The iPhone Rocket &#124; Geeky Gadgets</title>
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		<dc:creator>The iPhone Rocket &#124; Geeky Gadgets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] iPhone Rocket Posted 12 Nov. 2008 in Gadgets by Fatgadget           Michael Koppelman an iPhone developer and model rocket enthusiast, decided that it would be a good idea to launch his [...]</description>
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		<title>By: nasty</title>
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		<dc:creator>nasty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know little about the iPhone&#039;s internals and had to do a little digging.  I think you&#039;re exceeding the range of the iPhone&#039;s intended use (data wise).

I found an interesting article (can&#039;t speak to its accuracy) http://www.eetindia.co.in/ART_8800534325_1800001_TA_3d506bb0.HTM that claims some knowledge of the 3G iPhone.  According to this article, the accelerometer is an LIS331DL from ST Micro (datasheet: http://www.st.com/stonline/products/literature/ds/13951.pdf) which is a 3-axis linear accelerometer.  I note two things about this device:  

1) it&#039;s linear -- but you&#039;re reporting yaw and roll type data (correct me if I&#039;m wrong) which would require more than one accelerometer to generate (or it&#039;s making some major assumptions, possibly the accelerometer data is relative to the center of the iPhone?)

2) it operates in +/- 2 or +/- 8 g mode.  My guess is the forces seen at launch easily saturate both modes and the iPhone most likely operates in +/- 2 g mode for better resolution for the most common uses of the iPhone.

I also dug up the datasheet on the GPS module, a Hamerhead II PMB 2525 from Infineon.  (http://www.infineon.com/dgdl/PMB2525-Hammerhead+II-pb.pdf?folderId=db3a304316f66ee80117824fc0d71e07&amp;fileId=db3a304316f66ee8011782518d4a1e08).  This module doesn&#039;t seem overly powerful and might explain the data lag.

If you&#039;re interested, I probably have a GPS/cellular unit and some accelerometers with better range sitting in a box somewhere.  If not, they can be bought for reasonable prices.  I&#039;d be happy to help build a custom electronics payload.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know little about the iPhone&#8217;s internals and had to do a little digging.  I think you&#8217;re exceeding the range of the iPhone&#8217;s intended use (data wise).</p>
<p>I found an interesting article (can&#8217;t speak to its accuracy) <a href="http://www.eetindia.co.in/ART_8800534325_1800001_TA_3d506bb0.HTM" rel="nofollow">http://www.eetindia.co.in/ART_8800534325_1800001_TA_3d506bb0.HTM</a> that claims some knowledge of the 3G iPhone.  According to this article, the accelerometer is an LIS331DL from ST Micro (datasheet: <a href="http://www.st.com/stonline/products/literature/ds/13951.pdf)" rel="nofollow">http://www.st.com/stonline/products/literature/ds/13951.pdf)</a> which is a 3-axis linear accelerometer.  I note two things about this device:  </p>
<p>1) it&#8217;s linear &#8212; but you&#8217;re reporting yaw and roll type data (correct me if I&#8217;m wrong) which would require more than one accelerometer to generate (or it&#8217;s making some major assumptions, possibly the accelerometer data is relative to the center of the iPhone?)</p>
<p>2) it operates in +/- 2 or +/- 8 g mode.  My guess is the forces seen at launch easily saturate both modes and the iPhone most likely operates in +/- 2 g mode for better resolution for the most common uses of the iPhone.</p>
<p>I also dug up the datasheet on the GPS module, a Hamerhead II PMB 2525 from Infineon.  (<a href="http://www.infineon.com/dgdl/PMB2525-Hammerhead+II-pb.pdf?folderId=db3a304316f66ee80117824fc0d71e07&amp;fileId=db3a304316f66ee8011782518d4a1e08" rel="nofollow">http://www.infineon.com/dgdl/PMB2525-Hammerhead+II-pb.pdf?folderId=db3a304316f66ee80117824fc0d71e07&amp;fileId=db3a304316f66ee8011782518d4a1e08</a>).  This module doesn&#8217;t seem overly powerful and might explain the data lag.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested, I probably have a GPS/cellular unit and some accelerometers with better range sitting in a box somewhere.  If not, they can be bought for reasonable prices.  I&#8217;d be happy to help build a custom electronics payload.</p>
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