Comments on: Micheal Olauson of Valley City is a fucking retard

By: LEVI

LEVI — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:06:05 +0000

There is one major difference in the level of justification for the vitriol directed at President George Bush and that currently being leveled at President Obama which is…..Goerge Bush earned it over a period of eight years. The fact is that the Bush lost the popular vote in 2000, justifiably raising the ire of the left. To add insult to injury, he ran as a moderate and his administration turned out to be one of the most opaque and ideologically self-centric administrations in recent history. As a result of its “star chamber” decision making practices, we wound up in an unnecessary and hugely expensive war in Iraq and alienated our allies. Because of our involvement in Iraq, we took our eye off the ball in Afghanistan, a failure which is coming back to bite us in the ass now. Couple these poor decisions with the facts that the Bush administration has justified (and approved through legislation) warrantless surveillance of US citizens, effectively suspended habeas corpus and sanctioned what is arguable torture and I think any rational person will agree that there are real grounds for criticism. I won’t even get into the economic collapse. President Obama, in his first eight months in office is attempting to mend fences with our allies, shore up a shaky financial system through financial stimulus and provide some level of health care for US citizens. I fail to see how these goals justify the kind of hate being directed at him by the right.

By: PA32R

PA32R — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:23:40 +0000

I would state that (thinking) conservatives want Obama to fail in the sense that they are against his policies and want them to fail to be enacted. This is the same way that liberals wanted Bush to fail to enact tax cuts, send American troops to Afghanistan and Irag, enact legislation allowing social security contributions to be put into private, non-fungible retirement accounts, etc. Do you think liberals would have said “he’s my President, I hope he succeeds”?

By the way, I fully supported Obama being shown in classrooms. I understand those who feel otherwise but I think they’re wrong.

I really did see the same vitriol directed toward Bush from the left as is being directed against Obama by the right, i.e., accusations of naziism, fascism, murderer, and others. Olbermann was the counterpart to Beck, etc.

We live in a time when when “our team” isn’t in office, anything goes in tearing down the other team. I abhor it and choose not to participate.

Lolife, I’ve had this conversation with you before and you’ve stated that you sometimes need to just express yourself emotionally. Understandable but not constructive.

By: LEVI

LEVI — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:12:05 +0000

PA32
I’m 100% in favor of vigorous debate on all matters of policy but resorting to calling the president a Nazi or Communist or Socialist is not a legitimate discussion of the issues and is designed to take the focus off matters that merit intellectual scrutiny.
I don’t give any more credence to the left wing wack-jobs who think president Bush had a hand in 9/11 than the right-wing wack-jobs who think predsident Obama is in the process of orchestrating a commie coup (and neither should you or anyone else). Mr. Olauson refers to Obama’s education speech as “propaganda”. As I understand the word, propaganda is an attempt to influence public opinion through disinformation or a one-sided presentation of a message. The central message of Obama’s speech was “work hard and stay in school”….sounds like dangerous commie rhetoric. By comparison, Olauson refers to our president as a socialist “who is out to have everyone bow to him as others in faciest Europe did…” He is equating the actions of our democratically elected president with Hitler’s actions in europe. My piont is the people shouting Commie, Nazi, Socialist etc… have been throwing shit at the fan since before the election (see Muslim, Foreign Born etc…) and have never stopped. Most of these folks don’t know a damn thing about the issues and they don’t care. They just want to believe our president is a commie Nazi (can you really be both?) and hate his guts for it. That’s fucked up and fundamentally un-just. If you want to defend that kind of …..propaganda….have at it.

By: lolife

lolife — Sun, 18 Oct 2009 06:27:12 +0000

Not sure what your point is. Racism is a small part of the whole picture but a large part of some people’s view.

I don’t have a problem with Mr. Olauson or anyone else speaking their point of view. It’s an incredibly close-minded, inaccurate and hostile point of view that deserves criticism. These people choose to assume the absolute worst intentions and they hope for Obama to fail. They actively work toward it! And this a President who has reached out repeatedly and sincerely to the Right. It’s paranoid and counter-productive.

By: PA32R

PA32R — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:53:55 +0000

1. I assume you all reacted with the same vigor when the “9/11Truthers” got hours of editorial support from Pacifica Radio.
2. One can disagree with Obama, even think he is a socialist, without a quantum of racism.
3. The writer said NONE of the things that LEVI has attributed to him.
4. Lolife accused Bush of being worse than Stalin, worse than Pol Pot, worse than Idi Amin.
5. Oh wait, no he didn’t.

By: LEVI

LEVI — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:57:15 +0000

Crazy! The School administration should grow a pair. Unfortunately, Mr. Olauson’s thinly veiled appeal to fear and bigotry is clearly not an isolated incident. I think it’s incredibly ironic that jackholes like this guy refer to a legitimate presentation on education by our commander in chief as propaganda and fail to recognize their own rhetoric as the worst kind of propaganda. Goebles would be proud of the way the right is dehumanizing and demonizing our president. In my opinion, Olauson is just a misguided retard-bigot, however, it is troubling to me that even educated people on the right seem to want to believe and even foster falsehoods like President Obama is a Muslim, that he wasn’t born in the US …not because these assertions are true but because they provide them with a basis to challenge the legitimacy of his office. That basis, however false, is that “he is not like us…he is not a true American”…he wasn’t born here…he’s a monkey…Hitler…socialist etc…” (subtext “he’s not like us”). We fostered a similar mind set to convince our boys that killing the Japanese and Chinese in WW2 and Korea respectively was no big deal because they “weren’t like us…not really human”…. and it worked. The fact that the right is trying to dehumanize and instill the same disregard for our president is beyond troubling.

By: fishdweeb

fishdweeb — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:44:05 +0000

Grand forks didn’t show it either…..morons!

By: lolife

lolife — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:52:04 +0000

Oh and PS, Glen Beck lied about the 1 million people and you were stupid enough to believe him.